Poll: What Would You Call Bill Clinton If His Wife Were Elected President?


There has been a great deal of discussion about what term to use for President Bill Clinton should his wife, Hillary become president. In a recent request sent to Help A Reporter Out (HARO), the question was put forth.

Please give your opinion. There is an article scheduled to be written based on the responses provided. You will remain anonymous if you choose.

So, far there have been some interesting comments.

In Bill’s case…”First Ladies’ Man”
or, perhaps “First Lady’s Man”
First Gentleman will probably work also.
It will probably be First Dude, and I think Bill’s cool with that, too.
In this very special case…”Former President, Bill Clinton”
or, Former President and First Gentleman, Bill Clinton”
or, just call me “Bill.”

Gavin Long – “Bill’s title, like all former presidents, will always be “President Clinton.” This creates a very unique scenario. I think he would most likely be referred to as “Former President Clinton,” although “First Grandpa” seems fitting for Bill.”

Gary Frisch – I am a 27-year PR and communications professional, and a former journalist. I happen to be a registered Democrat and plan to vote for Hillary Clinton, but I usually don’t vote the party line.

As a former president, the title “Mr. President” still applies in civilian life, that won’t change, and it is the highest title one can hold in this country. So as the first husband, I believe he should still be referred to as Mr. President. Referred to in the 3rd person – when he’s not in the room, for example – I think “First Gentleman” is appropriate. When they are together, and being addressed, Hillary will be “Madam President” and Bill would be Mr. President. There’s hardly any room for confusion.

The press should refer to him in print as the First Gentleman, or “First Gentleman Bill Clinton” upon first reference, or simply “former President Bill Clinton.” I’m sure the editors of the AP Style Guide are wracking their brains over this as we speak. 

The best response was given by Mike Purdy, who is a Presidential Historian from Seattle, Washington:

If Hillary Clinton’s husband was not a former president, he would probably be called First Gentleman. But we have a very unique situation here in that Bill Clinton, like all former presidents, is still referred to as “President,” in this case “President Clinton.” It would be a demotion and sign of disrespect for the office of the presidency that he once held to refer to him as simply First Gentleman or any other term than President Clinton.

When referred to together, the right way to describe them would be “the President of the United States, Hillary Clinton” and “President Bill Clinton.” In fact, in some settings, the former president may simply end up being referred to as “Bill Clinton” in order to not confuse the situation implying that we have two presidents Clinton.

I’m sure that the wise minds in the etiquette world will ponder this dilemma and come up with appropriate protocols.

I am looking forward to your replies. The topic is great!!

Ta Ta for now,
Cathy Milne

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Police Chief Identifies San Diego Gang Unit Officers Involved in Shooting [Updated]

Police Chief Identifies San Diego Gang Unit Officers Involved in Shooting

The San Diego police officers shot on July 28, 2016, are Johnathan DeGuzman and Wade Irwin. The shootings took place at around 11:00 p.m. PDT, during a traffic stop in the southeastern neighborhood of Southcrest.

On July 29, San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman released the officer’s names and information during a press conference just before noon.

Read more on The Public Slate.

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Journalism Has Made For Quite A Year​

photo of GLV Certified Wrtier Cert.

My certificate of completion for Boot Camp.

I began a journalist’s writing course with Guardian Liberty Voice called Graduate Writer’s Boot Camp in June 2015. It was an experience that I will never regret. The program was supposed to be two weeks long, however, due to many circumstances it took me longer.

Quitting was not an option for me. Initially, I began as a way to build my portfolio, and it was not long before my feelings had changed. I wanted to be a journalist, so I made the needed changes in my writing style and my life to dedicate myself to be the best writer I could.

Once I became a certified writer and negotiated a contract I was surprised to find my skills had grown exponentially. My first articles are an embarrassment, but I have moved forward.

Not surprisingly, my focus was U.S. News and Entertainment. My passion is Politics. I was offered the position of Senior Political Editor. The thing that did surprise me was that I was asked to become the Assistant Director of Education!

I found that I love teaching. Although, this should not have been a surprise since I have racked up many hours tutoring ESL and English. There are days that wear me down and students who try my nerves, but I still enjoy my job.

The one drawback of teaching is I do not seem to have enough time for my writing. As a journalist, with press credentials, I have tried to get out into the community to do reports. I have interviewed people and have not submitted anything for publication. So, I write when I can. My breaking news articles are one way I can express myself on a news basis.

I have begun to post my articles on a Facebook Page called “Journalist Cathy Milne.” Frackle Media Group also has several other sites, another site my articles can be found is The Public Slate. I have also begun to use a hashtag so readers can locate me anywhere on the internet – #CMJournalist.

Here are some of my most recent posts:

Frackle Media Group is a “member program” not an employment program, and we are paid for reader views (pay-per-click commissions). I do receive a stipend for my position as an educator, but my primary pay is my commissions. As a freelance writer, that means self-promotion, so I will continue to promote here and on Facebook.

Ta-Ta for now, Cathy

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